hilarytamar: a spray of cherry blossoms (Default)
[personal profile] hilarytamar posting in [community profile] disabled_rage
It's your friendly but indecisive moderator here, and I'd like to get input on exactly how much moderation it makes sense for me to be doing.

At the moment, membership is open to all, individual posts do not require moderator approval, and all posts default to being public. (The ability to post is restricted to comm members, though I'm not sure there's really a point to that given that anyone can join.)

I'm reluctant to moderate membership, and I'm really, really reluctant to moderate individual posts. The point of the comm is rage: fury, frustration, god knows intemperate and expletive-filled language, even overreaction and irrationality – all of that is entirely appropriate here. Given that, if I were to start moderating either membership or posts, it would be with a liberal approval policy: I'd default to approving everything, unless I had some easily discoverable reason (a quick skim of the person's recent posts, say) to believe I was dealing with a blatant troll. The problem with even a liberal policy, though, is the lag it would create between the time of submission and the time of posting: when you need to vent, you need to vent right then, not after your post has made it through a moderation queue.

I don't have strong views about whether posts should be public or readable only by members. On the one hand, public posts may make it easier for people who need the comm to find it; on the other, public posts may make it easier for people the comm doesn't need to find it. More importantly, people may feel more comfortable if they know they're ranting in a closed and filtered forum.

It's been a long time since I've been in a flame war, though, so perhaps I'm being naive about the likelihood of trolling. Input, I need input! So, radio buttons:

Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: Just the Poll Creator, participants: 24

Should membership be moderated?

Yes
2 (8.3%)

No
19 (79.2%)

Something nuanced I'll explain in comments
3 (12.5%)

Should posting be restricted to members?

Yes
22 (91.7%)

No
2 (8.3%)

Something nuanced I'll explain in comments
0 (0.0%)

Should individual posts be moderated?

Yes
1 (4.2%)

No
20 (83.3%)

Something nuanced I'll explain in comments
3 (12.5%)

Should posts be access-locked?

Yes
6 (25.0%)

No
11 (45.8%)

Something nuanced I'll explain in comments
7 (29.2%)

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Date: 2010-04-24 08:31 pm (UTC)
ivorygates: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ivorygates
modding? needed more on any replies than on comments, IMO.

if trolls troll, ban them. then hunt them down in meatspace, kidnap their pets, and set fire to their houseplants.

posts access-locked? Yes. initially meaningless in a comm where anyone can join-to-post and anyone can read, but later you may want or need to take the comm members only, and it will be easier to tidy things up and make them secure if posts are locked to the comm on creation.

also, no anonymous posts of course.

(no subject)

Date: 2010-04-24 08:50 pm (UTC)
ivorygates: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ivorygates
if trolls could think they'd be working for medical insurance companies.

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Date: 2010-04-24 09:47 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Sign: torture chamber unsuitable for wheelchair users (even more access fail)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
They already are working there -- it explains a lot!

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Date: 2010-04-24 08:37 pm (UTC)
jackandahat: A brown otter, no text. (Default)
From: [personal profile] jackandahat
Re: Access locked.

I think people should be allowed to lock posts if they want, but I don't feel it's needed to lock all of them.

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Date: 2010-04-30 02:07 am (UTC)
rainbow: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rainbow
Yes, this.

I want to be able to lock an entry if I feel the need, but I don't think everyone should be req'd to lock.

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Date: 2010-04-24 08:55 pm (UTC)
firecat: red panda, winking (Default)
From: [personal profile] firecat
I think the community should start out unlocked but reserve the option of locking/moderating if there's a lot of trolling. (At that point if moderating is needed perhaps other people would be willing to help.)

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Date: 2010-04-24 08:58 pm (UTC)
vass: Small turtle with green leaf in its mouth (Default)
From: [personal profile] vass
I think membership should be open with the option of banning trolls, and individual posts should be open with the option of mods freezing them or doing whatever else they have to in order to stop the flood of trolls, when they come.

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Date: 2010-04-24 09:25 pm (UTC)
softestbullet: Aeryn cupping Pilot's cheek. He has his big eyes closed. (Art/ pills of eternal OKness)
From: [personal profile] softestbullet
I adore your icon!

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Date: 2010-04-24 09:48 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Baby wearing black glasses bigger than head (eyeglasses baby)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
O! Mouth! O I miss you so!

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Date: 2010-04-24 10:55 pm (UTC)
green: raven (Default)
From: [personal profile] green
I think people should decide for themselves whether to lock their post or not. So, I guess that's my nuanced answer. :)

Also, I think this is a fabulous idea for a community.

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Date: 2010-04-28 09:22 pm (UTC)
the_wanlorn: The Doubtful Quest with a pride flag-colored background (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_wanlorn
I agree with this comment.

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Date: 2010-04-25 06:13 pm (UTC)
monanotlisa: symbol, image, ttrpg, party, pun about rolling dice and getting rolling (Default)
From: [personal profile] monanotlisa
Just as a question, no offence intended: as cool as your icon is, is this comm meant to be US-American only?

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Date: 2010-04-25 06:32 pm (UTC)
jadelennox: Senora Sabasa Garcia, by Goya (Default)
From: [personal profile] jadelennox
based on my experience with the various disability + anger communities on LJ, I'd say for most part membership should be non-moderated, but you should be willing to expel trolls or people who regularly cause trouble. Initially, I think that individual posts should be unmoderated, although gimp_vent on LJ ended up moderating comments after a blowup which I didn't see because I think it got screened before I would have the chance to see it. But there are some over-moderated disability + anger communities on LJ which I think are excessive.

Personally, I will be access-locking my own posts but I don't think that should be required.

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Date: 2010-04-26 09:22 am (UTC)
ivorygates: (gen atomic blast  sepial)
From: [personal profile] ivorygates
oh and just because i do not seem to be able to refrain from being miss pissypants hellmommie today, make sure the comm is set to minimize its inclusion in search engines m'm kay?

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Date: 2010-04-27 06:51 pm (UTC)
shopfront: Source: Teen Wolf. Close up of Lydia smiling with her chin raised. (Default)
From: [personal profile] shopfront
I think whether or not to access-lock posts should be up to the individual posters choice.

(no subject)

Date: 2010-05-27 06:10 am (UTC)
erika: (Default)
From: [personal profile] erika
If necessary, you may want to set up the community to moderated posting and then allow various posters access as their first post shows that they are not asshats. That's how we do it over on ljgenie on LJ.
Edited Date: 2010-05-27 06:10 am (UTC)

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